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Tallianna Avenkarde
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Posted - 2011.10.25 16:45:00 -
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As with everything in eve..
player skill>fitting>sp
so no, if both players are equally skilled, in well fit ships, most times the t2 will win. But if the skill of the t1 pilot> the skill of the t2 pilot (which if you stick with it, practice hard and learn how the t2 ships fight IMO you won't take long to be better then most t2 pilots) then there is a decent chance of winning.
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Tallianna Avenkarde
Beasts of Burden
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:30:00 -
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Karl Planck wrote:Zoe Alarhun wrote:Assuming both pilots are reasonably skilled and have a equivelent amount of SP ? I'm just wondering as I'm still very low on SP geared for pvp and I'm wondering if it's possible to win against assault ships at all while flying a T1 ship. And I'm not talking fitting deadspace and faction or officer loot to a T1 ship, just regular old T2 items and faction ammo vs assault ship with same grade fittings. I find most often I die is when I get jumped by pilots with far superior gear. In part this is piloting error from me and inpart this is the huge disparity in performance.
Daredevil vs T1 frig or Wolf vs Tristan or 2x T3 Cruiser vs me a T1 cruiser.
So wolf or jaguar vs T1 ship - any chance of the T1 winning ? what talliana said is pretty spot on DD vs t1 frig, I have seen it happen Wolf vs trisan, haven't seen it, but i could imagine it happening. 2x t3 vs t1. Unless they they are missioning, ret*rded or are afk i see no way this would ever EVER happen
Im pretty sure those were examples of what he/she/it had been encountering. Or i would hope so.
i answered based on the assumption they were talking only the second example of wolf/jag V t1
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Tallianna Avenkarde
Beasts of Burden
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Posted - 2011.10.25 17:32:00 -
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Kush Monster wrote:depends on the frig... a T1 Dramiel with a competent pilot can beat nearly any t2
Pirate =/= t1
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Tallianna Avenkarde
Beasts of Burden
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Posted - 2011.10.26 03:59:00 -
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Goose99 wrote:Tallianna Avenkarde wrote:As with everything in eve..
player skill>fitting>sp
so no, if both players are equally skilled, in well fit ships, most times the t2 will win. But if the skill of the t1 pilot> the skill of the t2 pilot (which if you stick with it, practice hard and learn how the t2 ships fight IMO you won't take long to be better then most t2 pilots) then there is a decent chance of winning.
Karl Planck wrote:Zoe Alarhun wrote:Assuming both pilots are reasonably skilled and have a equivelent amount of SP ? I'm just wondering as I'm still very low on SP geared for pvp and I'm wondering if it's possible to win against assault ships at all while flying a T1 ship. And I'm not talking fitting deadspace and faction or officer loot to a T1 ship, just regular old T2 items and faction ammo vs assault ship with same grade fittings. I find most often I die is when I get jumped by pilots with far superior gear. In part this is piloting error from me and inpart this is the huge disparity in performance.
Daredevil vs T1 frig or Wolf vs Tristan or 2x T3 Cruiser vs me a T1 cruiser.
So wolf or jaguar vs T1 ship - any chance of the T1 winning ? what talliana said is pretty spot on DD vs t1 frig, I have seen it happen Wolf vs trisan, haven't seen it, but i could imagine it happening. 2x t3 vs t1. Unless they they are missioning, ret*rded or are afk i see no way this would ever EVER happen It actually complete misses the mark. If you pop a superior ship with superior fitting and superior SP, it has nothing to do with you being good, and everything to do with the other person sucking and making a mistake. Eve is a spreadsheet combat sim game, not a twitch shooter. There's no manual control. Assuming the other party is minimally competent and not make mistakes, the spreadsheet stats will show and there's nothing you can do no matter how "good" you are.
Learn to frig pilot.
If you aren't manually piloting, you're doing it wrong. So I stand by my original comment Player skill (Knowing how to manage cap, manually piloting, overheating, predicting what other pilots are going to do) > Fitting (wellfit as opposed to lolfit) > SP (90m indie vs 15m Pure PvP who do you think will win)
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Tallianna Avenkarde
Beasts of Burden
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Posted - 2011.10.26 04:01:00 -
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P.S
Whenever small fleet warfare is being discussed, always listen to the tusker
:)
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Tallianna Avenkarde
Beasts of Burden
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Posted - 2011.10.28 01:43:00 -
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Love how the people that say piloting skill has no effect dissapear when the tuskers start posting.
Bet this happens in local to them as well :P
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